We agree! Just reading In Search of Christian Freedom and all I can say is wow! Although we were definitely duped, we can see there really is a way out and a much better place to go. Thank you Ray and Cinthia Franz.
2 Corinthians 11:20,21
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Ray Franz Books
by Bangalore innow that cynthia franz is no more,what will happen to the production of ray's books?
will someone take over the publishing of the books or will the books go out of print?
those books are too important and need to be published for the next generation.. .
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We would love to see this news report go viral....
by Newly Enlightened inout of canada.. thank you cedars.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlchpt-pzby.
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Sad video. There's a young couple( eighteen years old) who came into this religion three years ago. He is now an ms. His wife's mother was at the dentist the same time I was. I introduced myself to her and told her I am not a jw. The next sentence was how bad do you want your daughter and her husband out of this religion. She just broke down and said bad. That her and her husband notice a drastic change in the both of them, that they are more judgementel than ever. We exchanged phone numbers and then I had to go in to see the dentis. Fourty-five minutes later she is still waiting for me and we talked. I told her to sit tight and will be giving her my book of Steve Hassan combatting cult mind control. She said she would talk it over with her husband and that she would read the book. One thing that really annoyed her was last summer, her daughter had their six week old baby out in service and they were out for the whole day. It was 37 celcius and she said that poor kid was in the car all day. She was mad.
Maybe she will see that she is not alone if we show them this video.
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Don't Miss the Meetings - Hebrews 10:24, 25 Re-examined
by Oubliette ini recently got an unsolicited lecture from a well-intentioned but nevertheless misguided jw friend.
the gist of it was that i needed to go to all the meetings or i would miss out on "everlasting life.".
i responded that i do not need to go to meetings to have a relationship with god.
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Superboy, your answer is yes! If you want to learn doctrine and not the bible then go to your meetings. There are some really good Messianic Hebrew scholars that teach only the bible and the language along with the culture. So far, everyone of them say the same thing, get out of all religion. All religions have a golden calf that their followers have to follow.
These teachers don't ask for money, beleive in the resurrection, no hell, no trinity, believe in only two comings of the Messiah, ect... These are extrememly humble beings that just put it out there and use the scriptures to back up their teachings. And yes we do it in our home or other exjw's homes. We're in a relaxed frame of mind and afterwards we have great association. None of this robotic, miserable,cold, rude association. No false fronthoods. And yes we keep our weekly sabbath from Friday after sundown to Sat after sundown and keep the seven feasts. It really isn't burdensome at all.
What we do with what we learn is up to us. We have that freewill. Unfortunately, what we learn the jw's can't answer therefore call us apostates. And there's no timeslip to fill out.LOL We just follow what the bible commands us to follow and that's it.
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Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-19-2014 WT Study (7 Shepherds, 8 Dukes)
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in16-20. we shall also have to raise up against him seven shepherds, yes, eight dukes of mankind.mic.
what is the most important thing that you can do now to prepare for any future attack on gods people?.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. .
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Funny how the gb doesn't want to have their names associated with the words false prophets but after reading some of the articles that Blondie dug up, it`s like the gb has had this in the makings for a while. So they now have mastered the art of how to make their own prophesies about themselves come true without being known as prophets. Masters of deception for sure is what they are.
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hello!
by gamergirl inglad to be a new member and find others with similarities of background.
some background info on me: my dad became jw when i was young, so i spent maybe a third of my life in the religion.
although i respect everyone's beliefs, i personally knew many genuinely selfless people in my congregation, but the way i was raised, now that i am an adult i am realizing was very sheltered and unrealistic.
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Nice to meet you, Gamegirl:) Gotta go, hubby just found pacman on the internet. Haven't played that since it first came out. Hmmm, wonder what year that was and no you cannot tell my age by when pacman came out!
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a "worldly" (gasp) Catholic just showed my huaband what true integrity is
by nonjwspouse inhe was a tenant of ours in 2009 on a visa, but was unaware of all the rules,such as checking in with any new address.
after some time, although hardworking, he lost his job and began getting behind in rent.
he promised to keep paying as much as he could.
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Faithful witness, I agree totally when it comes to hiring the mennonites. They are cheap and their workmanship is of good quality. They built our barn for us and did our eavestroughing around the house. However, I haven't met one that paints. I would hire them before anyone especially the witlesses.
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The JEWS did not believe in a heavenly paradise...
by DATA-DOG inthat's what a speaker at the kh said.
he also said that "paradise" in the bible is always earthly.
i have reviewed jwfacts again here:.
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That's not what we're listening to on Jewisheyes.org. They believe the Messiah has come and is coming again and the earth will be a paradise. Even Yeshuah stated in John 4:22 salvation begins with the jews. He didn't say a jew but the jews. There's a messianic hebrew movement that's multiplying worldwide and with no organisation, church or synogogues. No golden calf to follow.
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a "worldly" (gasp) Catholic just showed my huaband what true integrity is
by nonjwspouse inhe was a tenant of ours in 2009 on a visa, but was unaware of all the rules,such as checking in with any new address.
after some time, although hardworking, he lost his job and began getting behind in rent.
he promised to keep paying as much as he could.
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Yeah, I hear you. The best part is when you go to tell the elders to take care of it, they end up coming to your home and reading the scripture on why not let yourselves be wronged. At least in our case that's what happened to us and the one elder that came was the very one who told another elder he will step over anyone to get to the top. When I look back in just the short time we were in, I think what a twilight zone. So glad we are out.
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Did your congregation have a "Pioneer Appreciation Day"?
by Coffee House Girl inmy mom (who is now a regular pioneer) has been laid up after having major surgery, and i assert my "biblical" rights as a daughter to do what i can to take care of her, so i have been trying to go to her house on my day off to vaccum and run errands for her since she is not supposed to drive.. she called me last saturday to tell me that i couldn't come by because she was driving to her pioneer appreciation day get-together, wtf .
i'm just curious if this only happens in my area (michigan, us)????.
chg. .
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Like our elders wife told us that they deserve perks or else noone would want to do it. Yes, roses are bought and pool parties just for the elders, ms's and pioneers. Our friends were disgusted when their congregation wanted to have a dinner put on just for the labels and they wanted the publishers with no labels to serve them their meals and drinks. Labels are a wonderful thing, aren't they? Forget about abilities and qualifications to help the congregation to mature. It's not possible when there are no "gifts in men".
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a "worldly" (gasp) Catholic just showed my huaband what true integrity is
by nonjwspouse inhe was a tenant of ours in 2009 on a visa, but was unaware of all the rules,such as checking in with any new address.
after some time, although hardworking, he lost his job and began getting behind in rent.
he promised to keep paying as much as he could.
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We had a so called brother who said he could paint and it was the worse nightmare ever. He told us since it was going through insurance that he was going to quote high. He never did finish the job and the insurance paid him and the insurance also paid for the new painter that replaced him. The new painter was way cheaper and better. Another brother took all our livestock and the deal was that he pay us in the spring once they had their babies. A year later I went up to him and asked for my five grand and he said he totally forgot he owed us five thousand dollars. Never again!